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At North Dakota’s Minot Air Force Base, efficiency is part of the mission

midwesternenergynews.com -- Oil and gas aren’t the only strategic resources buried beneath North Dakota.

Part of the country’s intercontinental ballistic missile supply is stored under constant watch in 15 remote, underground facilities scattered across the state. Until recently, the Air Force had to truck diesel heating fuel to each one of them throughout winter.

Today, those missile facilities are warmed instead with a renewable heat source: the ground.

The missile sites are among a few dozen buildings in North Dakota where the Air Force has installed ground source heat pumps, equipment that takes the constant, relatively warm temperatures found underground and circulates it through buildings.

It’s part of a wide-ranging energy initiative led by Lawrence Johnson, who has become one of the Air Force’s ef


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LetemEatCake
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Thanks for posting Teafortwo!
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:49:17 AM

Cool! Makes sense.
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MAC48....Glad you brought up Root Cellars. Underground heat and cool air sources are really not a new thing as you stated. Payback is fairly quick and I am please to hear the AF is using this technology!
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:47:19 AM

Ground source heat pump technology has been available to the US consumer since the 1960s but the cost to retrofit an existing home used to be fairly expensive. The optimum time to put a ground source heat pump system in is when the home is being built while the contractor is already at the home site digging the water, sewer, natural gas and possibly the electric service trenches. If a home owner is facing the replacement of the existing heating or cooling unit or both units, a comparison of the cost of replacing the existing unit or units with new equipment versus the installation of a ground source heat pump system bears researching.

A ground source heat pump simply uses forced air circulation within pipes or conduit placed under ground where the ground temperature is at a constant 68 or so degrees and supplements that constant underground temperature to get the return air up to a temperature that the user desires using either electric resistance heating or natural gas heating. Our forefathers used ground source cooling to preserve foods for centuries in what was known as root cellars where they stored potatoes, “canned” fruit and vegetables, herbs, smoked meats, etcetera.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 8:53:29 PM

Discovery02: US Air Force is a great organization.

The military is greatly interested in reducing its dependence of foriegn fossil fuels and outside energy for a very practical reason: our national defense.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 8:46:40 PM

Interesting
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Why not Minot?!?!?!?! Freezin's the reason!
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US Air Force is a great organization. Hope that program doesn't get cut with the Sequestration Axe in January!!
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:25:42 PM

Sounds like a good thing, now just need to come up with the money!
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:16:04 PM

Wish we could use same technology for our own home. The cost probably is very high initially.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:13:50 PM

My neighbor installed one of these systems. Very expensive to install, but said it would pay for itself in less the 5 years. His "heating" and electric bill is down to less the $40 a month during the winter and summer seasons. He also, installed state of the art, solar panels, super insulated, and completely sealed the house.

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LEAD ON!
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INTERESTING
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There's hope for us yet.
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I thought military intelligence was an oxy moron...now substitute gov't
for military and you got that right!
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Innovation is essential to saving resources.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:02:09 PM

This same source can give cooling in the summer
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Wow there is actually some Military Intelligence
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:00:00 PM

Geothermal heat pumps are great. Glad to see they're getting with using it in this application.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:55:35 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:52:43 PM

they need to do more of this!
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Somebody is thinking outside of the box.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:10:15 PM

And the northern snows won't delay heating fuel deliveries.
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Well at least our military is trying to do it's part. God bless our military.
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Being self sufficient is a good thing, especially when you are living in a missile silo.
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geothermal cave cool
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:01:33 PM

what is the payback on that investment? or ROI?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:58:33 PM

Cool. Or warm, as the case may be.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:57:23 PM

Fowlcan,
The price of gasolie is related to to the energy choices that all of us make including the government. If they were heating these facilities with oil or gas that would reduce the supply available for your ca and mine.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:55:20 PM

Awesome we save $10 here so we can throw away $100 somewhere else. Seems like logical math and budgeting.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:55:17 PM

...interesting!...relevance?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:54:53 PM

That's a cool technology but it's not cheap.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:53:57 PM

I've read about people building homes underground or partially underground and how energy efficient they are so this makes perfect sense. And what I like most is that any money saved eventually means money taxpayers save. So good news all around.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:52:25 PM

my parents did this for their home years ago - big cost savings in all seasons!
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Good to know.
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Good idea. Reduces reliance on fossil fuels.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:49:20 PM

Good technology.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:48:10 PM

Smart move by the Airforce
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:46:30 PM

Good news from an often overly stiff and inflexible segment of government. Thanks for the post.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:40:33 PM

soon they will be forced to close so i guess this is no big deal
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i like it
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good
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:33:45 PM

Pretty cool and it'll save a little money too.
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what? another g'mint boonswaggle?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:30:43 PM

good info
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How is this related to GAS Prices and this forum?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:22:22 PM

Makes sense, after the initial investment you get a lot of years of "relatively free" constant temperature heat source.
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About the lowest unemployment rate anywhere.
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Thermal energy from the ground is not a miracle find it is a technology from many years ago not new idea.
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Underground has always been warmer.
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